Is there a better alternative to this game? Like GTA without being GTA?
(WARNING: Major salt below. Like freaking Dead Sea levels of salt.) Like holy shit. For a game that's been out for 7 years you'd think it would be able to function at a playable level or at least have some semblance of balance. I just wanna a good online crime sim with cool vehicles and weapons but everything in this game is ridiculously inflated to the point where you could 'grind' for hours and still only be able to afford a fraction of a car (Even the cars that have been from updates from YEARS ago have not gone down in price, like what the hell? I can't even access any of the cool shit in Story Mode either which is beyond infuriating). 'grinding' is essentially impossible in the conventional sense because you'll spend hours on ridiculously difficult missions fighting waves of bullet sponges for scraps of a chance for money. The constant errors and glitches don't help either. Take the heist prep delivery glitch for the yellow circle for example. Over a year ago my heist supplies just would'nt deliver for the Diamond Casino to the point where I couldn't progress at all. A year later and the same glitch is still present in the Cayo heist where I spend like 12 minutes getting shot at with supplies only to find I can't enter the Kosatka. Like really Rockstar? Over a year and you still haven't fixed this? I can send support tickets but they all lead to the response of 'oh we're aware and working on it!' Well clearly you aren't if its been this long! Don't even get me started on griefing, like who the fuck decided adding in the Specter from Saints Row was a good idea?! I absolutely LOVE getting fucking nuked by a dozen fucking depressors that I can't fight back against. I really wish there was a strong competitor in the open world video game market to take Rockstar down a notch. Its super ripe for the taking seeing as how low the bar is with the state of online today. FiveM definitely has the right idea but even that is just a derivative of GTA. GTA Online is a game designed for junkies, to keep you glued to a screen spending hours to get overpriced items in hopes you'll just cave and buy microtransactions (which are also fucking overpriced. The Megalodon card is 8 mil and cost $99. 8 mil gets you like 1 property with all upgrades, FFS a yacht is 9 mil. You're telling me a virtual boat is worth 3x the retail price of your game? What kind of brain dead toddlers are buying these things?!) If you're playing GTA Online in 2021, you've gotta be a fool, a junkie, or a masochist. Like fuck, there's gotta be a better alternative open world game than this shit. It has rekindled my interest in building a gaming rig just to play FiveM. (I started writing this during a loading screen. I need to get outside more)
EDIT: Realized I forgot to add a TLDR so here goes nothing lol: Buy a mansion and have AI run your MC businesses, CEO businesses, and Bunker. Start a crew of AI and start building yourself up as a kingpin. Then, buy a customizable private island and start a cartel. Open up massive labs and add entertainment for tourists, if you so desire. Compete against AI-run cartels for control of major cities in the GTA universe (Even ones that aren't accessible in GTA online). Become allies with other cartels or enemies. Topple other cartels and take control of their assets. (Islands, territory, production, etc.) Go head to head with the government like Pablo Escobar did or stay more lowkey like the Cali Cartel. Now I want to preface this by saying I have no insider information whatsoever. This is literally just what I’d like to see going forward in this game. So moving forward after the Cayo Perico heist (which is the best money maker in the game by far) I’m not really sure where there is to go for Rockstar. I highly doubt they want to make something that pays even better than this because of shark card sales. So from here, I think they could head in a slightly different direction than heists with every other update. -The Mansion Update: The apartments in-game are borderline useless for everything but the garage. You can do the original heists but that’s about it, unfortunately. I’d love to see mansions added into the game with the highest-end one being something like 20 million and the lowest end being say 5 million. From the mansion, you can get a central area to control all your businesses. Maybe you can get a massive garage with this. (A 40-60 car garage like the CEO office) Beyond this, you can start a crew and have them work under you as dealers for your various businesses (MC, Bunker, Nightclub, Vehicle warehouse, and Crates). You have to pay the dealers say 10-20 grand a day but they manage your business and sell them for you and pay you the money. You can also give them secondary tasks like going to collect money from your businesses, etc. Now the big update -The Cartel Update: Owning the mansion will be a precursor to all this content. With this update, you would be able to buy your own private island. My thought is it would be extremely expensive. Starting at around 30 million and going up to say 80-100 million. With this update, you can take the crew that you had with your mansions and expand it to become your own cartel. All of your businesses would run through this. Bunker, MC, CEO, and any others you may have. You’ll have bigger and better labs and warehouses on this island than you do in LS but you’ll still own the ones in LS. You can hire hitmen and enforcers or even hire old characters from prior DLC’s as these roles. (Vincent, for example) You’ll be able to employ drug dealers such as the Madrazo’s and new ones too. They employ dealers and move your product. They get a percentage based on how good they are. Eventually, they’ll be able to move all the products you can produce across all businesses. For example, the Madrazo’s could be good at moving your drugs but then not be very good at moving your weapons and vice versa with a new character. You’ll be able to choose which dealer moves which product. You can get your products and shipments seized and again that will depend on the quality of dealers you employ. The Island itself will be originally blank except for a small airport. It will cost money to build labs and bunkers for your island but they will be worth it. They will be much bigger and able to store way more product and completely AI-controlled and maintained. You’ll start out with a smaller house on one side of the island that you can designate as your residency space. You can build guard towers and security checkpoints which will help boost the morale of your employees as well as keep your island safer from enemy cartels and the government. You can build entertainment spaces like a casino and nightclub or even a nightclub if you want to have tourists come to your island. This will be a security risk, of course, but will bring in money for you. You’ll be able to build garages below your home on the island and store whatever cars there that you want. You would be able to build yourself a race track if you wanted to. If you run out of room on your island you’ll be able to upgrade your island to a bigger one with a slightly different layout. It certainly would not be cheap but you’d have more space. Once you run out of space on the biggest island that’s as big as your cartel will be able to get until you topple other cartels and take control of their operations. Now the big part of this DLC would be the AI-controlled cartels and government. We have one cartel in the game now to some extent (El Rubio) and you’ll be able to interact with these cartels. You’ll be able to choose what to say to them and how you handle business. If you choose to be offensive towards them and take over their territory they won’t like that which will start beef between you and them. You can have wars and, if you play your cards right, topple the cartel and take its resources and territory. You can also ally with other cartels and use each other’s routes and just generally help each other out. If you topple another cartel (AI-controlled) you take control of their resources such as their island, territory, and supply lines. You can annoy other cartels if you wish by selling in their territory, robbing them (Cayo Perico heist), and killing their soldiers. This will make them less trusting of you if you do it obviously but if you’re careful they’ll be less trusting of everyone. Including any allies they have and this can be used to weaken them and hopefully topple them. The goal would be to become the biggest drug lord in the world which would probably mean toppling other big cartels. Play your cards right and these cartel leaders will have their guards lower around you and your cartel and you can make a move against them and kill them and topple the cartel swiftly. Of course, none of your allies would trust you anymore but you would have toppled a cartel and given yourself more control. The territory would be split up with you selling in LS and other cartels arguing over Vice City, Liberty City, Las Venturas, San Fierro, London, Capital City, etc. These areas would not be able to be traveled to but you would be able to see which cartel controls which cities and the cities population and a few other stats. Any cities added in future games that came to GTA online as free-roam areas would be added to that list, of course. You can be a high profile drug lord like El Chapo and Pablo Escobar or you could be more low profile like the Cali Cartel. These are the two extremes but you can always fall somewhere in the middle. You can raise your public opinion meter by giving out money, building apartment buildings, parks, etc. With this update, there would be elections introduced. Only for President and maybe one or two other government roles but they can be elected and they’ll have different stances on issues that directly affect you. One can be hard on the cartels or another can be more lenient and open to working with them. If you want to go the low profile route you can try and rig the election in favor of the candidates you want to win. Of course, this won’t always work but you can always try. If you go the high profile route you can just assassinate (or attempt to, depending on how good your hitmen are) the candidate you want to lose. You’ll also have a meter of popularity and at each point the citizens of the country will either love you or they’ll hate you. The higher your popularity the easier it is to conduct business, higher prices for your products and if the government ever decides to launch a manhunt against you the citizens won’t help the government catch you. This will be seen as you’ll be able to move around LS and any other new cities freely and all you have to do is just stay away from police stations as much as possible. If you commit a crime or are seen near the police station you’ll instantly get a 5 star wanted level that you can’t cancel using Lester. If you use a CEO ability or any of your cartel abilities to try and bribe the police it’ll only take it from a 5 star to a 4 star. If your relationship with the public is bad it will be much harder to move around the city. There’ll be police checkpoints near any businesses, homes, or offices you have. You will be able to get around them but it won’t be easy. On your island, you’ll be completely safe and won’t have to worry about getting wanted. Of course, there will be a limit to how much stuff you can do before the government steps in, in a much bigger way. If your cartel kills too many politicians, cops, or other government officials the manhunt will become much larger and more intense. By this point, the relationship you have with the people will be essentially down the drain so everything with the low relationship will apply in this situation. If your relationship is this bad you will essentially be staying on your island and away from the mainland because it won’t be safe for you. But periodically, the government will send the military to your island to try and take you out. You and the crew you employ as island security will have to hold off the military and at least attempt to kill them all. It won’t be easy but it will be possible. If you’re allied with any AI cartels they will send reinforcements to help you. This will happen for two weeks straight every two days unless you raise the meter with the citizens. After these two weeks of hell, the manhunt will reset back to just the low punishments and your island will be safe again. If you get killed by the military you will lose a lot and respawn in Bolingbroke with some of your crew coming to break you out. This will be a tough fight but it will be scripted like a heist mission and if you die then it will restart. After you’re outside the prison you’ll need to lose the cops, no help from Lester or CEO/Cartel abilities either since you won’t have a way to contact them just yet. After you lose them you will need to escape to a warehouse of yours that isn’t known by the police. (Facility or new underground safehouses) until you decide to make a break for it and try to get back to your private Island. Once back, most of your workers will be in jail or dead so you’ll have to hire new ones. Your lead enforcers and hitmen won’t be killed but will be in jail so you can decide during your escape whether you want to attempt to break them out too. If you choose no, you’ll have to hire a crew of players to break them out. You’ll pay something like 1 million per player and the players will have to break them out. To sum up the price of getting caught it will probably cost you somewhere in the region of 30 million dollars of lost product and workers on the low end and around 75 million on the high end. Your cartel will bring in lots of money for you. Somewhere around 5-10 million per week on the low end and 30 million at the high end. You will NOT compete with other players, only against AI cartels. Elections will be for you and you alone, not other players. As you can see this will be an endgame thing primarily based on the amount of money the buy-in would be. For the first update, it will be mainly vehicles that the people without a ton of money can buy but if you have a high-end apartment you’ll be able to become a kingpin for an AI-controlled cartel. It’ll be something to get your foot in the door and build some infrastructure for yourself. The pay won’t be amazing as you won’t be able to build that big of a crew but it will be something. Probably 50-100 thousand every GTA day. Eventually, the players will (ideally) save up money to buy the mansions which will mean you can employ more people and go higher up in the food chain with the AI cartel you chose. Eventually, once you get enough money to buy the private island you can split off from the AI cartel and start your own. You’ll be able to bring the infrastructure you built up under the AI cartel to your new cartel. The AI cartel will not like this for obvious reasons and this will set off a lot of beef and wars between your cartel and the AI cartel.
Update 1.01 The Kiddions mod has made GTA 1,000 times better. No more grinding away, only to lose it by some stupid mistake. I just started moding, but I've done some research into how to make it reasonably safe, and as way to give back to the community, I created this list of Do's and Don'ts so maybe there will be less "is this mod safe" posts. Maybe the sub moderators will sticky this or make an FAQ. Banning and ban waves - I did some research and I see back in August a lot of people got banned. At the time, there was some kind of casino glitch, so maybe R* was looking at players with high bank accounts that they mostly received from the casino. From what I have read, people get a temporary ban the first time, and a permanent ban the 2nd. So it's not the end of the world. If I was banned once, I would still use the mod. I would just not use anything that shows most of my money coming from the casino. I'm not saying don't use the casino rig, just don't use it after your first ban. I would make sure that you change your Social Club settings to only be viewable by yourself, or maybe just your close friends. I wonder if R* banned someone with their SC settings set to private, would open them to being sued in the real world? So if you get banned, claim ignorance. Claim some modder put that money into your account and you didn't want it. Maybe they will take pitty on you? At least post on this sub what you were doing and why R* banned you. Give us much detail as possible. Do not mod from December 8th - December 22nd because of the update and the possibility of a ban wave during that time. Some people even recommend waiting a month after the update. I'm not going to do the casino rig on holidays or weekends because I think there are more people on the servers. This might be overly paranoid. I welcome suggestions and constructive criticism! Do be careful about using the casino rig. Either empty the lobby (last option on the online menu), or at least make sure no one else is in the casino when you hit the jack pot. Do not brag in the game online about moding. Don't even mention it, or the vast amount of money that you've gotten through it. Loose lips sink ships. Do not be a jerk to other players so they report you. Do not give money drops to people you don't know and don't go crazy with it, because the person that you give money to could get banned. Do not raise your RP level really high, or make it something stupid like 666. Maybe someone could post a comment below about "safe" RP levels. Do not use godmode - I would think it would get you notice. I don't use it anyway. Do be careful about what you buy. The yachts come to mind. Once you request yours, other players can see it, and they might get curious. Having an extremely popular night club also comes to mind. Showing off lots and lots of expensive cars. Even the Oppressor could be problematic, but since R* just gave 1 mil away, and maybe they are on Black Friday special, they might become very common. The update is supposed to come with a bunch of new weapons, and I think you can buy a sub. Not sure how those will look. Just be careful. Fly under the radar! Do not teleport, but if you do, use ghost mode so no one knows you're going all over the map. Do not grief. So I wouldn't do this anyway, so this is easy for me to say. But I think griefing pisses people off, so after destroy what they took hours to build, they might want to come after you. Filing a report is one of the steps that they could take. And that could put you on R* radar. Do set your Social Club privacy settings so that only you can see what you have and where you got it. Do set your payout for the Bunker method to below 2.5 million it won't work. So this was update 1.01. As always, I welcome suggestions and comments. Please post below.
Free tools & menus Although the majority of free menus ARE viruses, scams, detected etc. As far as I know there is 1 decent free menu, decent as in safe to use any paid menu can easily out-class it and can probably crash there game. The free tools/menu that I would recommend are Kiddons Modest Menu - https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/grand-theft-auto-v/433685-kiddions-modest-external-menu.html This is the one and only free mod menu out there. Its recovery options and tools are lacking however you can set your own experience level with it. It also has a god mode option and a basic vehicle spawner. You can make a decent amount of cash with this menu by going into Online Services/Casino/Rig Slot Machines and remove the limit. With this play the Egyptian themed slot machine and always bet max. You will win every time and you’ll make around 2.5mil per loop, you can cash out the chips to cash. It’s a slow method but the most effective one with kiddons and it still beats dropping yourself or grinding. GTAHaX - https://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/grand-theft-auto-v/275597-gtahax-1-52-external.html This is a stat editor for GTA 5, it’s only really useful for setting your character stats, unlocking locked items and skipping heist preps. You cannot modify your xp or cash with this although there might be a way to modify your health, which would be pointless as all menus include a god option. This is also free, Its not a menu but I still include it as it is a cheating tool. GTA 5 Online Mechanics to know for modding GTA 5 is a P2P, or Peer to Peer game for online. There are two special types of players used for this, Host and Script Host. Hosts will be hosting the lobby and most menus, except for kiddons ofc, have an option to use a host kick that will kick ANY player in the game, regardless of what protections they have enabled. This is basically an UNBLOCKABLE kick, this is why becoming host is so valued, some people will even kick ½ the lobby in order to gain host. As a host your game can still be crashed or kicked by other modders though, it depends on whether or not your menu is good enough to withstand the kick. Some mod menu’s. You then only need to kick one person. After host there is script host, you can take this away from any player WITHOUT kicking them, although kicking them also works, Script host has a stronger kick than normal but it can still be blocked, so even though it’s nice to be script host it isn’t required or even super helpful. Paid Menus and what they are good at I’ll be listing menu’s then talking about them and what they have pros/cons at. There isn’t an exact tier-list however as it mainly depends on what you want Luna– This is the mod menu I personally usually use, its quick to update and has pretty good recovery options, kicks and protections. As far as I know it’s got the best protections from other menu’s as well as kicks/crashes. It’s not the most stable menu however and I’ve noticed that I crash more with it than normal, although not an extremely high amount. It costs $25 and can be got fromhttps://lunacheats.org/welcome/ Not taking sides, menu was either taken down by a C&D or it was an exitscam. There is no proof of a C&D, articles use Luna as source and Luna use Articles as source but there is also no proof of an exitscam as menu was doing pretty well at the time they got rid of it. Impulse – Impulse has a few tiers, I’m not too familiar with the individual tiers however Impulse is usually known for its good trolling options, last I checked its recovery options were not that good however it’s still a good menu if you’re looking to troll. It can cost $15 - $50 depending on what tier you get. You can get Impulse from https://impulse.one/ Disturbed – Disturbed is a medium tier menu in my opinion, its not good at crashing other people or protecting against other menu’s however it has great recoveries and it is cheap. It costs around $10-$15. I would not recommend buying Disturbed VIP as your better off getting a different menu. You can get it from https://www.w1tch.pro/ Phantom-X – Phantom-X is also a cheaper menu, It compares to Impulse in the sense that it’s good for trolling and I’ve even seen some people say its better for trolling. However Phantom-X doesn’t seem to be good at that much else. From what I’ve heard its pretty stable. It can be brought from https://recoverygods.xyz/ there main website is pretty hard to find and after 30 minutes of searching I could not find it’s official website as I’ve not personally used Phantom-X. Paragon – Paragon is one of the more expensive menus. It’s very stable and has a pretty nice looking menu in my opinion. I’ve used it for a while during the free weekend and liked it. It used to be known for its great protections but recently it’s been lacking in protections. However it has decent trolling options, more recently it seems like an all-around menu. You can get it from https://paragoncheats.com/ Ozark – I haven’t tried Ozark much, it’s a cheaper menu but its also in beta. It looks promising and has some unique features. Apparently it has a WIP Lua Injector which is great news for people who are in special groups or know how to code Lua. You can get it from https://ozark.gg/ 2Take1 – 2Take1 is usually considered to be the best menu out there, especially if you know Lua as it is the only menu with a working Lua injector. However it is also the most expensive menu and it also partially uses a subscription model, the menu costs $140 to permanently keep and it can be brought from https://2take1.menu/ Menu’s that you should NEVER get I’ll just list these off without much elaboration as they are usually stolen code, have poor support or are viruses. Free Youtube/Ebay/Discord Menus – 99% of these are going to be viruses and the other 1% is going to be detected. Don’t install Kiddons from a youtube video go to the unknowncheats link I posted, make an account and get it from there if you want it. Kingpin – Pretty bad over-all, usually considered to be the worst menu out there. Never get any mod menu’s that are new, they can be exit-scams and will usually take the cash and bail after a month. Examples of these exit scam menu’s are - Over - Hypno - Indara A lot of these exit scam menu’s are also using stolen code. Resellers Since most mod menu’s use bitcoin only there are resellers which can sometimes charge at a slightly higher price but will deliver the menu and accept payment forms like PayPal. These are resellers that I know of/am aware of. If you know of a reseller comment it below and I'll add it. realdudesync radiantcheats recoverygods freshkeys Disturbed keys can only be brought through there discord. You can find a link through there site (W1tch.pro) Updates: V1.1 Added more Resellers, Crossed out Luna
My list of mod rules to follow while moding to make it safer
The Kiddions mod has made GTA a 1,000 times better. No more grinding to make money, and then have it lost because of some stupid mistake. It's so much better having an infinite supply of money! I'm new at moding, so I made these rules to follow, and thought I would share my list because the question "Is this mode safe" is a very popular question on this sub. Maybe this will answer some of those questions. I'm open to suggestions, and constructive criticism, so please reply so we can improve this list.
I think you should be in a solo lobby when you do the casino rig. Others think you should be in a public lobby and just watch for people coming into the casino.
Don't brag about moding, or the amount of money you've gotten from it to other players
Don't give money drops to people you don't know
Don't raise your RP level really high, or make it something like 666
Don't use godmode - I would think it would get you notice. I don't use it anyway.
Don't buy a yacht. Ok, I have this one because I'm not really interested in one anyway, but my thought is that yachts cost a lot of money, that could raise the interest of people that don't have money and wonder how you do.
Don't be a jerk to other players.
Don't grief. I don't grief anyway, but I would think griefing would anger people, who may report you, and that could maybe get you banned. Again, I don't grief, so I have no idea
Set your Social Club privacy settings to you only so that someone can't see how much money you have, or where you got it. Have a friend check - go to their wall -> Games -> GTA V, and select their online profile.
Don't mod from December 8th - December 22nd because of the update and the possibility of a ban wave during that time. Some people even recommend waiting a month after the update.
I'm not going to do the casino rig on holidays or weekends because I think there are more people on the servers. This might be overly paranoid.
That's as far as I've gotten. I'm open to constructive criticism, and would like to other rules that should be added. Eventually, maybe the moderators will sticky this or make an FAQ.
Possible to Sue Rockstar for Unfair Casino Chances?
For the past few weeks I've been comparing the results of the blackjack tables in GTA Online with some realistic results of 4-deck blackjack chances in real life and it seems that the tables in GTA Online are highly tilted towards the dealers. From my investigation, the dealers in GTA Online will pull cards to beat the player in a much higher percentage than what will happen naturally with a 4-deck casino environment. Is it possible that R* is illegally robbing players who have potentially spent real life money on shark cards by allowing them to spend said money on rigged casino games? Especially blackjack, which is known to be the most skill based casino game? I'd love to see R*s response to this. Will post all the results once I can get them into a public Google Doc
How GTA Online turned from a great game to a complete money syphoning clusterf*ck
Don't get me wrong, I still love to play GTA Online to this day but it disapoints me what it turned to and how it changed alot since 2013 into much worse. Let's talk about online connectivity which is main problem. It takes literally 15 minutes just to get kicked back to SP due Rockstar's crappy P2P online which in-hand is one reason why whole lobby becomes buggy and glitchy when somebody joins with terrible connection. Rockstar hasn't also bothered to improve that and their cloud servers that fail every evening. Just to top it off with infinite loading screens that occur very often causing players to totally reboot their game and waste of more of their time just for game to be stuck at loading screen again. Futurization has improved the game and extended its lifespan but gave griefers and tryhards new toys to fuck with low levels, afk players basically everyone on lobby. Some of futuristic vehicles were great and helped people defend themselves and grind faster and better but some completely ruined freemode such as Oppressor MK2 (not a bad vehicle at all, actually one of best grinding vehicles, the only problem are people who abuse it to kill everybody in lobby). Orbital cannon has indeed really ruined freemode and grinding forever. Just imagine this, you're selling 111 crates of special cargo in public session probably to avoid super accurate NPC I'm gonna talk about later, and all that hard work just to be blown up by some kid ducking in his facility spending money he got from his mommy's credit card. There's no occasion and awareness to know when you're gonna get orbed unless you're checking for people who are in facilities. People might say that 750k to kill somebody is balanced, uhmmm not. People can just leave immediatly after they orb someone and rejoin back with their money still there and no cooldown at all. And problem is, it cannot be patched cause it's cloud server exploit. Great job Rockstar !!! Glitches are also one big problem GTA has been struggling. I don't have anything against people who glitch their money but people who glitch to be un-killable or to destroy somebody's cargo immediatly are worst. There are glitches that let you go godmode and ones that let you teleport which have not been patched for years. There are also glitches that completely ruin your game such as Titan glitch and are also left alone for years. Rockstar clearly ignores these glitches and patches ones that are harmless and money making just to save Shark Card sales. It's incredible to see game company having their mouth full open for money. They became too greedy even more than EA and Activision combined together. Talking about patching glitches, Rockstar has double standards when it comes to releasing hotfixes. Remember duffel sale bag mission ?? It had one very rare bug that was able to be fixed easy but what Rockstar did ??? They completely removed the mission leaving us stuck with terrible missions such as Post Op van one. They bugged Bombushka cargo door after seeing players use it for grinding and patched the Avenger crate glitch only because players made boring and repetitive 3 crate mission faster !!! They also made hotfix to Casino Heist adding rock in middle of nowhere. They blocked vault door and added additional guards on race track after noticing people finishing casino heist fast. They have also patched gender change glitch which was just changing character gender for 100k !!! They have done alot more but I'm not gonna mention anymore harmless things patched. When it comes to cargo-griefing, that's what annoys me. Rockstar is completely PROMOTING cargo griefing to players just so they can increase their shark card sales. When you try to defend yourself, you lose 10k and get badsport, but griefer gets only 2k after destroying 1 mil goods. Rockstar actually supports that acting unaware about many players complaining about cargo griefing. This is not how you gain playerbase Rockstar, this is just how you lose them in matter of a seconds. Anti-cheat system is almost to non-existent. People can easily bypass the anti-cheat system and bomb lobbies by using mod menus. Those also get away with bans when innocent players get their characters reset for no reason. How in the hell can you let modders have fun destroying the game while innocent players are just trying to play the way it's meant to be played ??? Talking about casino chips glitch bans, isn't Rockstar overreacting too much ?? Players exploit your game to get money due to boring, terrible and repetitive grinding. Instead of patching the glitch, you go out and ban everybody who just gets penny from it ?!?!? I'm never gonna understand. AI is another lazy-developed thing with this game. NPC's have ridicously good aim, rapid fire and sped up animations making every mission pain in the ass. Not only that, they'll even manage to headshot you blinding firing or from very far distance. What about traffic AI also ? It seems like that they're programmed to crash into you everytime you're doing I/E. Has Rockstar even tested their game before releasing not knowing about problems that will occur ?? Probably not... And last but not least, overpriced items. This has angered many players causing them to buy shark cards so you can get money. Why the hell supercar that's gonna be used once costs +2 mil. Why the hell bodysuits and even more irrelevant clothes cost +300k. Why do many vehicles that are already expensive need to have even more expensive paywalls ??? Well two words, shark cards. Arena update was pretty much worst serving as Rockstar's money laundering scheme due to terribly overpriced items and vehicles. Isn't 1.4 mil for RC car too much ?? Bonus thing we have is Casino resort. Rockstar just dropped the ball with it as they PROMOTED GAMBLING !!!! You can get in-game money with real money, then convert that money into chips you're gonna lose in matter of seconds cause whole Casino is rigged to boost up shark card sales. That is in-game gambling being almost the same as REAL gambling. No wonder Casino is blocked in half of the world countries. This is gonna be the end of my opinion. There are much more things to cover but this feels already more than enough needed. Read this and get it to yourself that Rockstar became what they parodied about in past.
How is this game so riddled with bugs after 6 years? It's time something is done about it
I know this post is long (sorry) but I'm genuinely interested to see how many people are in the same boat and what people's thoughts are. I recently started playing GTA Online again about 6-8 weeks ago. I had not played since the original heists were released, I think I stopped playing around the time the Zentorino was released as most of my friends stopped playing I became bored of playing alone. As someone who has come back to the game with all of this new content (MC Businesses, New Heists and Casino etc) I got back into playing quite a lot (Probably at least 200 hours+) and was excited to buy all the businesses and make loads of money and buy new content and stuff. Even playing alone I started I really enjoy myself. So it's now 6-8 weeks later and I've encountered SO many bugs. So many bugs that it's actually making me want to stop playing again because it's just ruining the enjoyment of the game. Here are some of the big problems I've had in this short space of time:
The game gets stuck a lot. I can move the camera around but can't get to the pause menu or close the game or switch session or anything. This seems to happen a lot with many interactions, specifically the casino and MC stuff. The only fix is to force quit through task manager.
I brought a nightclub, which like the other businesses isn't really cheap. I managed to accrue 1 full stock out of it for each department, sold it and then 2 of the options just got 'stuck'. They have techs assigned but they just never accrue any stock. I researched this on Reddit and rockstar support and I can see people complaining about it and pleading for a fix around the release time. There are consistent posts after the release date for months and months stating the same bug. Even within the last month, there are people quoting the same problem. Still, this is an active bug and nothing is being done about it clearly. The content was released over 18months ago, what is Rockstar doing? My night club now only accrues 2 variations of stock out of the 7 possible. I had every intention of upgrading it and using it but now it just seems like a complete waste of time and I wish I never brought it. I've tried many of the fixes and it hasn't helped and to be honest, I shouldn't have to try and do little tricks to try and use content that should have been repaired over a year ago.
The nail in the coffin for me was just a moment ago when I walk into the casino to do my spin for the day and land on the Furia supercar, I'm super happy, thinking I just won the best prize and then the game glitches out, allows me to move my camera around but I can't quit out or change session or anything (Like what I described earlier). I'm forced to quit via task manager, I left it 5 minutes in hope that it would still register my spin. I load the game back up and it didn't register and I have a spin still available. I took a picture of the spin but seems pointless because Rockstar clearly wouldn't do anything about it.
What really seems to baffle me the most is that I see videos shared on Discord, Youtube and other places with people sharing exploits online. Things such as how to rig the wheel or glitch out a heist to be able to replay last mission etc. This stuff gets instantly patched?! For some reason, Rockstar doesn't want people to win a car every time from the wheel. A car that you can't sell for money or gain more than once and still requires upgrading, doesn't really benefit anyone much. Yet they won't fix an ongoing glitch which literally renders the nightclub useless? A glitch that's been around since release. So again I have to ask. What is Rockstar doing? Feels like all they care about is releasing new cars. Their customer support appears to be awful and the game is RIDDLED with bugs. At least that's my experience anyway. What's everyone else's opinion? It's time something is done about all the problems surely. TL;DR - The game is full of bugs that have been around for quite literally years, yet Rockstar is not doing anything about it and is prioritizing releasing things like cars. Their customer support is awful/non-existant and surely it's time something is done about it?!
Upfront: I have what is very clearly not a gaming rig. I'm using the guts of a donated Optiplex 990 with a GTX 1660 Ti. I am getting some strange FPS behavior, specifically in GTA Online (a common complaint, I know), and the symptoms are leading me to believe it's a CPU or mobo related bottleneck. Symptoms: FPS drops that seem unrelated to graphics settings and usually occur where there "shouldn't" be any real strain. Great example is in GTA Online, while in the Casino lobby, my fps tanks to low 40s regardless what I do. My character can be looking over the Casino floor, or he can have his face buried in the wall in first-person view, makes no difference: my fps is in the low 40s, my CPU and GPU utilization are chilling at ~50% each, my temps are all great. I can lower all of my graphics settings to the minimum, I can drop the resolution to 800x600, or I can max everything out to Ultra settings, doesn't matter. Low 40s fps. Utilization hanging out in the 40-50% range. Temps fine. Driving around normally in the game, I can usually stick right at 60fps with VSync on, with the occasional dip here or there to the low-mid 50s. Without VSync on, I'd estimate I'm usually in the 70s for FPS. This is with very high & ultra settings across the board. However, there are clear areas of the game where the FPS tanks (like in/around the casino), especially when the server has several other players in it. It's hard to explain, but it seems whatever is causing the FPS issues in the Casino is also causing the other FPS issues I have during gameplay, because these are times where the FPS tanks and stays tanked, even with nothing "happening" on the screen. I understand dips in FPS while flying across a map, while getting into big explosive gunfights, etc. This is not that. It is instead something clearly hitting a hard performance wall for seemingly "no reason." And, again, CPU/GPU utilizations are around 50%. Temps are low. This happens regardless if I just loaded the game 5 seconds ago, or if I've been playing for hours. I get this to a degree in other games too, such as Wildlands. Certain areas hit an FPS wall even though there's nothing that stands out as the cause. I could be inside a building, for example, and perhaps because there's a populated area outside (I'm guessing to the cause here), my FPS drops and stays low. But it doesn't do that symptomatically when I'm running through the dense jungle with grasses and shadows everywhere. Wall of text aside, this is the main thing I'm curious about: what is causing this hard, steady hit to my performance regardless what I change to any settings whatsoever? It "feels" like a mechanical restriction, like "this is literally all your hardware can do in this moment right now," but that's strange to me because my utilizations and temps are low, which makes it seem like nothing is really doing any heavy lifting. Or maybe that's just how hardware works. System Specs
Mobo: Dell 06D7TR
CPU: i7-2600 @3.4GHz (with Boost to 3.7GHz)
RAM: 32GB (8GB x 4 Samsung PC3-12800 DDR3)
HDD: Samsung SSD 840 PRO Series (240GB)
GPU: MSI GTX 1660 TI VENTUS XS 6G OC
PSU: EVGA 650 GQ, 80+ GOLD 650W
Audio: Sound Blaster Zx
Windows 10 Pro 64bit
Stuff I've Tried The usual "I've tried everything" here:
DDU driver cleanup and reinstall
Adjust all settings in-game, in nVidia control panel, etc.
GTAO Invite Only lobby guide with a Section for StriclySolo players. Updated.
WIP. WorkInProgress. This is to highlight all the things that can be done in the game without being a public session. Public session stuff is well covered in other guides.
GTAO Invite Only lobby guide with a Section for StriclySolo players.
What is a solo player and why would anyone do that in a MMO?
GTAO is not strictly a MMO. Some people just do not derive joy from playing games with others. But would like to play in a immerseive online game where the content evolves and can have a shared experience. So some people chose to play solo. There are roughly 3 types of solo play.
StrictlySolo - This player will never want to play with another person ever. Pretty rare. But this guide will cover them.
MostlySolo - This player will occasionally play with others in Missions, heists, and public freeroam. MostlySolo might have the holy grail of solo setups. A 2nd Machine with which to play. This opens up a whole new world of solo play. The 2nd machine will be mostly idle or can just be a buddy in the other room who occasionally hits triangle (or equiv) to get in and out of vehicles. The 2nd playemachine can be classified as ActiveParticipant (a live other person who can participate) or DeadWeight ( a 2nd machine/console or a person who is idling.)
GroupSolo - Will prefer to only play solo but will occasionally play with a close group of friends or crew. Example would be someone who grinds crates alone then gets with others to do sales.
Jobs available to a StrictlySolo player in a Invite only session.
Contact Missions - There are 90+ that are available to one person working alone. For the full list see http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Missions_in_GTA_Online These pay $80K-$150K/hr depending on when you turn them in.
Casino Work
After purchasing a casino penthouse a user can call Ms. Baker to ask for jobs. These can be done in a invite only session. Either solo or with associates, in which case the missions can be scaled to have multiple objectives. These pay fairly low at about $10K-$15K per job, but they also sometimes pay in casino chips.
VIP Work
Sightseer - Hack the system to reveal packages. Collect 3 packages in 15 minutes using a hacking app on the phone. Pay is $18K-$25 depending on how quickly it is completed.
Asset Recovery - Retrieve a vehicle (usually a motorcycle) from either the Vespucci Police Station, La Mesa Police Station, Mission Row Police Station, Vinewood Hills Police Station, Sandy Shores Police Station, or Paleto Bay Police Station and deliver them to a drop off. Wanted level cannot be lost until close to the destination. Pays $5-$10K
Hostile Takeover - Retrieve a package from either the Altruist Camp, Fort Zancudo, LSIA, or Merryweather Base and take it to a location. After stealing the package you get a 3 star wanted level. Pays $15K-$25K.
Headhunter - Take out 4 targets that randomly spawn on the map. Two targets are always mobile and two targets are always stationary. ~$18-20K Guide
Extended VIP Work
(Must own vehicle warehouse and buy specific vehicles to unlock.)
Fortified - "Enter the Armored Boxville and survive until the time runs out."" Payment: $30K-$35K
Plowed - "Smash all the enemy supply crates using the Phantom Wedge." The supply crates can only be destroyed with the Phantom Wedge. Payment: ~$30K
Fully Loaded - "Destroy all the turreted vehicles using the Ruiner 2000."" Using the Ruiner2K is not required. However at least one person must be in the Ruiner2K for the blips to show up on themap. This of course works better if someone else is with the CEO to keep the blips hot. Payment: $20K for destroying all vehicles. $5 for <10 vehicles destroyed.
Transporter - "Use the Wastelander to transport a vehicle to the drop-off location." Payment: ~$22K
Velocity - "Enter the Rocket Voltic and stay at the top speed until the time runs out to avoid detonation." Payment $35k
Stockpiling - "Collect the cargo crates on land and at sea using the Blazer Aqua." Payout: ~$1500/package.
MC Clubhouse Contracts
Torched - Destroy some NPC Crates. You can use missiles, bombs, or Molotov. Pay: $16,500
Gunrunning - Ambush weapons dealer and deliver weapons to drop off Pay: $19K+ depending on how long it takes.
P.O.W. - Rescue contact from secure location and get them to a safehouse. Pay: $23.5K
By The Pound - Complete a deal and deliver it to a buyer Pay: $15,500
Cracked - Attack a gang hangout and steal their cash.Pay: ~$7K+
Jailbreak - Hijack a prison bus and get the inmates to escape vehicles.
After Hours aka Nightclubs.
Nightclub Setup missions can be done solo in an invite only session with only the CEO.
Nightclub New DJ these missions change the resident DJ.
Nightclub Promote Club this can be done solo in an invite only session.
Nightclub Income - Passive ~$10K/hr if the club is kept popular by doing Promote Club missions.
Client Jobs for Paige.
After purchasing a Terrorbyte the VIP/CEO/MC President can launch a series of client jobs.
Robbery In Progress use the Terrorbyte to find a bank robbery and intercept the gold from the thieves. (1+ participant) $31,000
Data Sweep - Hack multiple vehicles to determine which one has the data. Deliver to the client. (1+ participant ) $33,500
Targeted Data - Get the info from LifeInvader to assassinate a target. (Note: can leave out the drones and do manually) (1+ participant) $30,000
Diamond Shopping use the Terrorbyte drones to intercept a diamond shipment. (Note: It is possible to do the mission just by running in and skipping all the drone work.) (1+participant) $31,500 for all participants.
Note: Collectors Pieces and Deal Breaker require 1+ associates and are below. Note: Editorializing here but Paige is one of the nicest people you can run jobs for. Very validating in her manner and very supportive even when things go wrong.
Jobs available to a MostlySolo player with DeadWeight as Associate or MC Member.
Casino Work
After purchasing a casino penthouse a user can call Ms. Baker to ask for jobs. These can be done in a invite only session. Either solo or with associates, in which case the missions can be scaled to have multiple objectives. These pay fairly low at about $10K-$15K per job, but they also sometimes pay in casino chips. When working with DeadWeight note that the missions will scale and make it harder for the VIP but they are all still completable with practice.
Client Jobs / Challenges for Paige.
Collectors Pieces - Collect the antiques from Armored Trucks and deliver to client. (2+ participants) $9,668
Deal Breaker Track a targets phone to locate a deal and break it up. Deliver breifcase to client. (Note: This can be done without using the tracker in the TerrorByte) (2+ participants) $9,000
VIP Work
Sightseer - Hack the system to reveal packages. Collect 3 packages in 15 minutes using a hacking app on the phone. Pay is $18K-$25 depending on how quickly it is completed.
Asset Recovery - Avoid this one with DeadWeight as the amount of vehciles to deliver increases.
Hostile Takeover - Retrieve a package from either the Altruist Camp, Fort Zancudo, LSIA, or Merryweather Base and take it to a location. After stealing the package you get a 3 star wanted level. Pays $15K-$25K.
Headhunter - Take out 4 targets that randomly spawn on the map. Two targets are always mobile and two targets are always stationary. ~$18-20K Guide
Extended VIP Work
(Must own vehicle warehouse and buy specific vehicles to unlock.)
Fortified - "Enter the Armored Boxville and survive until the time runs out."" Payment: $30K-$35K
Plowed - "Smash all the enemy supply crates using the Phantom Wedge." The supply crates can only be destroyed with the Phantom Wedge. Payment: ~$30K
Fully Loaded - "Destroy all the turreted vehicles using the Ruiner 2000."" Using the Ruiner2K is not required. However at least one person must be in the Ruiner2K for the blips to show up on themap. This of course works better if someone else is with the CEO to keep the blips hot. Payment: $20K for destroying all vehicles. $5 for <10 vehicles destroyed.
Amphibious Assault - "Destroy all enemy supply crates using the Technical Aqua." Difficult but not impossible with DeadWeight. Payment: $20K-$25K
Transporter - "Use the Wastelander to transport a vehicle to the drop-off location." Payment: ~$22K
Stockpiling - "Collect the cargo crates on land and at sea using the Blazer Aqua." Payout: ~$1500/package.
Velocity - "Enter the Rocket Voltic and stay at the top speed until the time runs out to avoid detonation." Payment $35k
Note: It is nearly Impossible to complete Ramped UP. Especially with DeadWeight.
VIP Challenges
Cashing Out - Compete to steal the most amount of cash by hacking ATMs. Winner gets a bonus payout of $18K. Losers get $5K. Everyone gets to keep the money they stole.
Salvage - Dive with rebreathers or a sumbmarine to collect ($) checkpoints. Each checkpoint is worth $500 after the first 10. 40-50 checkpoints. Winner gets a $18K bonus, Losers Get $5K. Like Due Diligence The winner of this can easily make $35-$45 in 10 minutes.
Auto Buyout - Compete to steal and deliver the most high end vehicles. Payments are based on who delivers the most expensive vehicles. Winner gets the largest cut. Winner gets a percentage range from 0.71%-1.45% of total value. The percentage gets lower the higher the total is; it may cap at 0.71%. Loser gets $3k-$4.5K. The most expensive vehicle I have found is the Transit Buses and Dashound Buses which bring in $500K each.
Due Diligence- Compete to find hidden packages. Each member of the team gets a trackify app on their phone. When you get close to the package you will see smoke. Do this in the town of Harmony on a Sanchez for quickest payout. If 1 person collects all the packages within 10 minutes, they get about $38K.
Most Wanted - Compete to survive a wanted level until time runs out.Payout $15-$21K. The wanted level goes away after the challenge. Park DeadWeight in a Rhino Tank, or APC sitting offshore.
Point To Point - Compete against team members in a race. $10K+ to the winner $500+ to the losers.
Courier Service - Not really good with DeadWeibght. Compete against team members to grab protection money and deliver to a location. If in an air vehicle the money evaporates. All damage to courier and the couriers vehicle makes money evaporate.
Market Manipulation - Compete to hold up stores in the time limit. Payout is $13K+ for winner.
MC Clubhouse Contracts
(Still a WIP...some do not work well with DeadWeight must have ActiveParticipant)
Weapon Of Choice - Assassinate targets in the manner the contract giver specifies. Pay: $18,500+ This is ok with DeadWeight. Pres can do all the contracts after doing their own.
Torched - Destroy some NPC Crates. You can use missiles, bombs, or Molotov. Pay: $16,500
Gunrunning - Ambush weapons dealer and deliver weapons to drop off Pay: $19K+ depending on how long it takes.
P.O.W. - Rescue contact from secure location and get them to a safehouse. Pay: $23.5K
By The Pound - Complete a deal and deliver it to a buyer Pay: $15,500
9/10 of the Law - Steal motorcycles from a secure location and deliver to a drop-off. Pay: $17,000ea
Cracked - Attack a gang hangout and steal their cash. Pay: $7K+ (may scale with amount of mc members)
Jailbreak - Hijack a prison bus and get the inmates to escape vehicles. Pay: $22.5K
Fragile Goods - Destroy Lost MC vans Pay: $13K-$17K
MC Club Challenges
Search And Destroy - Started by President. Look for targets in a search area. Pay: $27K Winner / $2K Losers
Wheelie Rider - Started by President. Ride a Wheelie the longest. No brainer $12K every 5 minutes with no cooldown. Pay: $12,000 Winner / $2K Losers
Jobs available to a Two players in a Invite Only session with ActiveParticipant as Associate or MC Member.
These additional jobs are available with conditions.
VIP Work
Piracy Prevention - For players with Yachts. $20K for successful attacker. $30K to vip team for defending. Players needed: VIP/CEO, 1+ Non-associate
Executive Deathmatch - Challenge another VIP to a deathmatch. Players needed: 2 VIP/CEO
Executive Search - The VIP is given 2 minutes to reach a location. Players needed: VIP/CEO, 1+ Non-associate
Air Freight - Collect a Cargobob at one location then go to a container being guarded by NPCs, take them out, pick up the container with the Cargobob, fly it to the destination. Payout ~$18-20K Avilable In: Invite Only, Crew, Public Players needed: VIP/CEO, 1+ Non-associate
Haulage - Collect a truck and drive it across the map. Non-associate players are told to stop you. A Karin Technical spawns at the initial pickup point. Payout ~$18-20K. Players needed: VIP/CEO, 1+ Non-associate
MC Club Challenges and Work
Criminal Mischief MC Pres + 1 Member needed. Must be near each other to start. Pay: $30K+ Winner / Loser $3500+
Deathmatch Duration: 20:00 or 20 kills. Pay: $20K Winner / $5K loser. Participants Required: MC President, 1+ Rival MC
Caged In - Pay: $4K+ depending on duration Participants Required: MC President, 1+ other players.
Rippin' It Up - Started by Enforcer. Cause the most damage while on a motorcycle. Pay: $18K+ Winne $1.5K Loser (based on damage done) Participants Required: MC President, 1+ MC Members
Hit and Ride - Started by MC Vice President - Perform the most driveby kills on NPC gang members. Pay: $14.5K Winner $4.5k Losers Participants Required: MC President, 1+ MC Members
On The Run - Started by Sergeant at Arms. All members given 5 star wanted level. Pay: $15K+ Winner / $1.5K+ Losers. (Based on time survived.) Participants Required: MC President, 1+ MC Members
Race To Point - Started by Road Captain. Race to the clubhouse or a random point on the map.Pay: $10K+ to winner. Participants Required: MC President, 1+ MC Members
CEO Special Vehicle Work (Must participate in public lobbies to unlock these the first time. After they are unlocked the actual missions can be played in invite only mission.)
Escape Escort (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 4 steals) "SecuroServ are on standby to extract some clients from a difficult situation. Collect modified buggies and get ready to clear their escape route for them." One person drives a Rumpo Custom the rest of the team takes Ramp Buggies to clear vehicles.
Breakdown Recovery (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 8 steals) "Source a modified classic car restoration project for SecuroServ by taking the vehicle transport truck it’s loaded onto. It’s a rare and technologically advance vehicle so expect armed resistance." Use the Wastelander to deliver a car cross country.
Cleanup Op (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 12 steals) "Mount a land and sea operation to wipe out the Lost Motorcycle Club’s methamphetamine operation in Blaine County with amphibious ATVs."
Asset Seizure (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 16 steals) "A SecuroServ client’s chain has been seized by Police. Smash through the red tape and take back their product using a modified Big Rig."
Firewall Protection (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 20 steals) "Government contract to combat a large-scale multi-source hack on government data. Use rocket powered Voltics to get close to enemy agents and wipe their hard drives.""
Coast Guard Duty (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 24 steals) "Bring down a smuggling operation on a Super Yacht for SecuroServ clients using an armored Technical Truck with seafaring capabilities."
End of Transmission (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 28 steals) "A SecuroServ client needs some technology in the hands of a Merryweather client. Take an armored RV to The Palmer Taylor Power Station and get it for them. They will be expecting you.""
Arms Embargo (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 32 steals) "Create an artificial scarcity in the arms market at Fort Zancudo using an all-singing, all-dancing state of the art, restored and modified classic car.""
Casino Work
After purchasing a casino penthouse a user can call Ms. Baker to ask for jobs. These can be done in a invite only session. Either solo or with associates, in which case the missions can be scaled to have multiple objectives. These pay fairly low at about $10K-$15K per job, but they also sometimes pay in casino chips.
Client Jobs for Paige.
After purchasing a Terrorbyte the VIP/CEO/MC President can launch a series of client jobs.
Robbery In Progress use the Terrorbyte to find a bank robbery and intercept the gold from the thieves. (1+ participant) $31,000
Data Sweep - Hack multiple vehicles to determine which one has the data. Deliver to the client. (1+ participant ) $33,500
Targeted Data - Get the info from LifeInvader to assassinate a target. (Note: can leave out the drones and do manually) (1+ participant) $30,000
Diamond Shopping use the Terrorbyte drones to intercept a diamond shipment. (Note: It is possible to do the mission just by running in and skipping all the drone work.) (1+participant) $31,500 for all participants.
Collectors Pieces - Collect the antiques from Armored Trucks and deliver to client. (2+ participants) $9,668
Deal Breaker Track a targets phone to locate a deal and break it up. Deliver breifcase to client. (Note: This can be done without using the tracker in the TerrorByte) (2+ participants) $9,000
Other work that requires a particular amount of people but can still be done in a Invite Only Session.
MC Club Work - Joust - Deathmatch on a motorcycle. Pay: $17K Winner, $5K losers Participants Required: MC President +1 MC member , 1+ VIP/Rival MC (3 total)
MC Club Work - Stand Your Ground Pay: $30,000 Participants Required: MC President +1 MC member, 1+ Other people.
VIDEO 1 VIDEO 2 S/O to straightuphippo on this concept. I just want to give some constructive criticism on this. I like the ideas presented, but I don't like the way that you layered 2 videos on top of each other, again, it was a nice idea, but it does not look good in my opinion I would have rather just seen the still image and than when you push start it should switch to the videos of the camera walking around the cars, I also want to say the logos are also a no go, they have the rising sun in them, which in Japan has become kind of controversial in much the same way that the confederate flag in the US has, but for different reasons. however these are just 2 downsides to the many plus sides of this video. I think the actual content here is great, just those 2 negatives make me prefer video 2 over video 1, however I think maybe a combo of both would look nice. also side note, is that Jay trying to impersonate The Broker, or is that you impersonating The Broker?
UPDATE EDIT 2
Gameplay Concept Video S/O to louisbarron16 for making this bad ass gameplay concept. the voice acting is alright, not the best, but certainly better than Tyler Morgan from Payback so it's a yes from me. also, the UI in my opinion looks a bit retro, so in my opinion it could use some work, but the idea is the gameplay and not really the UI. also louisbarron16 I would have turned stability on for the video, but still great video.
I’m going to start this thread with a controversial statement. I prefer the only night time setting because it is easier to develop for, allows for better graphics, and makes it easier to create a dark and gritty story about the underworld of street racing. It also aligns very well with the locations I picked for the game. In my honest opinion the day time setting would be boring in my proposed location. So this game im proposing will be night time only. And before you go on a crusade, the locations I picked were picked with the night time setting in mind. There will be plenty of color and plenty of life. Even though it is only night time everything will still feel alive, and the only way to convince you of that is to talk about the map.
MAP - Okay, I can’t exactly put together a layout for a map based in Japan, but I can list some key locations that would need to be in a Japan (Tokyo) based map no discussion at all. So down below I will list “filming locations” as I will call them for roads and areas that need to be in a game based in Japan.
Free DLC and if MTX must be a thing, shortcut packs. But in the ideal world it would be all free, and Ghost & EA do not have an excuse anymore considering that GT Sport had a rather large expansion that was completely free with no MTX either. Plus when you look at 2015 and compare its DLC to Paybacks DLC it’s not very difficult to see that 2015’s free updates had more content than Paybacks paid DLC. plus, when looking back 2015 was supported for quite a long time, it may not feel like it but 6 months is quite a long time when reflecting back.
NPC’s
in order to really sell the fact you are in a big japanese city based on Tokyo, there will need to be a lot of AI walking on the sidewalks and across the street. These AI will work very similarly to the AI in Midnight Club LA, if you try running them over they will run and jump out of the way. I have seen Ghost very reluctant to add this as a feature because “this is not GTA” and I agree it is not GTA, thats why these NPC’s are impossible to kill, they have no death sequences, they are simply 3d character models walking around. Also, I dont think the NPC’s should be commending you for being an idiot and doing donuts and shit. If you start doing destructive and reckless things such as burnouts and donuts a few NPC’s will simply give you negative looks. They will be displeased. If you are just cruising in an expensive car or a highly customized car a few NPC’s might pull out their phone and take a few snaps while saying nice car in Japanese. Ya know, basic stuff to make you feel like you are in a living world. Payback tried, but I feel like having the NPC’s commend you for doing burnouts and driving fast is really an unrealistic thing for real life people to do thus making the feature kind of immersion breaking.
PHYSICS
Yes, payback has good physics. They work and they can be fun, but to me it’s a bit dated at this point. I don’t hate the brake to drift and casual drifting, but I’d rather have a grip focused handling model I know many racing game fans and more importantly hardcore NFS fans that want a grip focused handling model like Carbon or Most Wanted. People want that arcadey grip handling model where you can actually screw up and spin out. And quite honestly for this game im suggesting, a drift focused handling model will not work. It just won’t. Brake to drift just is not fun in city environments which is what Codename Japan is focusing on. Drift focused handling will not work for the canyon layouts of my map either because well, I designed them with the idea of sudden death Toge events (AKA Canyon Duels) in mind. The physics model I’m proposing will allow you to drift if you equip drift biased upgrades, but if you equip the drift biased upgrades you won’t be able to compete in grip style events, to do that you will need to equip neutral or grip handling upgrades, likewise the only way to compete in drift events is to put on drift handling upgrades. P.S. the curb issues will be fixed, they will no longer launch you 10 miles into the air.
STORY
ACTORS
I’m going to start off by saying get real Japanese, real American, and real Japanese-Americans to star in the game. No fake accents. Especially not from British people I hate it when British people try to do the American accent likewise I hate it when Americans do the British accent. So please have the actors match where their characters are from. And anyone doing japanese accents that are not japanese will just come across as racist.
CG AND LIVE ACTION
this proposed game will contain both CG elements and live action in the cutscenes, and there is no excuse to not include live action stuff. With Payback they claimed that there were not enough sets and that you could not really do explosions and stuff in live action environments and I completely disagree, plenty of films have done explosions in live action environments by making the explosion itself CG. there is really no excuse to exclude the live action stuff, so that’s why it will be here in this proposed game. Think of it like Carbon where they blend CG elements with live action elements.
PLOT
The biggest issue I have with Payback is its story. To me everything felt way too tied to social media rather than what is supposed to be the main star of the game the car and the characters. Not only this but the story is not gritty. In Payback it just felt like mostly everyone was trying be your friend like no one hated you. To make things even worse Payback has had by far the worst set up for a story I have ever seen. I’m sure Bollywood films have better setups than Payback, but that’s just my opinion. I’m going to spoil the set up here so, spoiler warning, but it’s not really something that matters all that much because not only is it a super predictable set up, but the set up also happens within the first few minutes of gameplay, spoiler The issue is even worse with Paybacks characters being seriously under developed. I mean to this day the only thing I know about Marcus Weir is that he owns a casino. To this day the only thing I know about tyler is that he is a street racer who is an annoying ass hole, To further issues even more spoiler so there is no reason for you to be mad or to fight to the end. No i’m not asking for intense blood and gore, just something subtle like spoiler That’s the kind of twist and combination that NFS has never explored and in my opinion, they need to. People you care about need to die in these stories the protagonist needs to screw up a few times (but not too much, just enough for us to know that they are human), I feel like doing this will not only make the story more dark, but will also teach important lessons about how people are not perfect and how people you love might die if they are involved in something as dangerous as illegal street racing and illegal street drifting. Just look at the classic F&F movies, look at the classic NFS games and than make a dark gripping story that in inspired by those films and games. I know, it’s easier said than done, but it’s your job and it needs to be done. The story has to show why running from your problems is a bad idea. There needs to be lessons rooted in the dark stories. It can not be just over the top action, there needs to be substance there. and in terms of making good characters, making emotional moments, and making good use of cinemetography the story developers at Ghost Games should watch the videos linked below. Now I know not all of these videos will help make a good NFS story, however it is stuff every film/game director should know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga0rs2G8BGI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ObTpA_Vkw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM1tUwpy-yQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJBULcZpg5E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzRHGS-HUdE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCedbTGWzk
UPGRADE SYSTEM
NO MTX based upgrades and no randomized upgrades. When you upgrade you get what you pay for. There is no reason for the upgrades to be completely randomized. None. if you want parts to be harder to achieve just increase the amount of money they cost. Now onto the depth. Brands will be returning, but it will be more streamlined than in Payback. Gone are the perks. You simply select the brand and than you select whether you want to favor speed or acceleration for engine upgrades and for tire, suspension, or brakes you select whether you want them to be grip or drift. But if you want to compete in Grip Races or Toge events you have to either have neutral or grip handling upgrades.
NEW GAMEPLAY ELEMENTS
Driver Skills: formerly known as perks in Payback are being removed from the upgrades and being moved to “driving skill” where you can improve skills such as transmission skill, air skill, and control, transmission skill will decrease the amount of time it takes to shift gears, air skill will increases landing stability, and control skill will increase grip. You might think it’s unrealistic, but its not, the skills I selected are skills you would realistically get better at in real life if you put in the time to get better at them, which is kind of why I put that element into my game as I think it is a more realistic way of doing RPG without being random. Perks: Perks are something completely optional all the perks are 1 time use only and cannot be used in online. Now that’s out of the way, perks give you a special ability when equipping them. The perk options you have the option for are Speedbreaker, which allows you to slow down time for a few seconds, Quick-Repair, which allows you to quickly repair the vehicles damage when it is at 75% damage or more, Supercharged Nos, which supercharges your nos allowing for more acceleration when using your first tank of nos, and Anit-Killswitch, which makes cops with kill switches ineffective in kill switching your vehicle. Crew Members: there are multiple types of crew members available in game. The different types of crew members are as follows; Drafter, Scout, and Blocker. Drafters give their crew member more speed by letting them slipstream off of them, Scouts will essentially highlight all the shortcuts in an event, and Blockers will take out other racers in your way. You unlock Drafters by beating Grip Bosses with a specialty in drag, you unlock scouts from Grip Bosses with a focus on circuit racing, and you unlock blockers by beating Grip Bosses with a focus on sprint racing. The crew members are completely optional and you can complete the game without them if you feel like they are a crutch in any way. DISCLAIMER: you can NOT take crew members into drift events, boss races, toge events, or wangan battles.
CHALLENGES
I’m going to make this as clear as possible, you can NOT skip these challenges by purchasing a MTX because that would get rid of the entire point of having these in the first place. GTR Builds: build types that require you to complete a list of challenges to unlock, every car in the game gets a GTR Build that you can unlock via completing an assignment in game. One of the GTR upgrades you can unlock is the GTR upgrade for the BMW M3 E46. in order to unlock the GTR upgrade for the E46 you have to get your E46 M3 to heat level 5, conquer all races in career mode using any vehicle, cause 200,000 in fines in 1 pursuit using your E46 M3, and ram 50 police vehicles using your E46 M3. By unlocking and equipping the GTR upgrade for the E46 M3 you will essentially turn your M3 E46 into an M3 GTR E46 by swapping in the M3 GTR NA V8, by equipping straight cut gears, and by equipping the M3 GTR body kit. Preset Wraps: NFS Japan will come with preset wraps to unlock via completing a list of challenges. One preset wrap “The Most Wanted” for the M3 E46 will be unlocked by having a bounty of 150k, avoiding 5 spike strips in a single pursuit, winning 10 speed trap events, getting a speed of 200 MPH in a single speed trap, and disabling 10 cops in a single pursuit. Special Vehicles: special vehicles consist of the Fire Truck, the Isuzu Giga 2017, the Mitsubishi Fuso Fe 180 Garbage Truck 2016, the Isuzu Erga Hybrid (Bus), the Police Mazda CX-5 Rhino, the Police Subaru Legacy, the Police Nissan Skyline V35, the Police Nissan Skyline R34, and the Police Mazda RX8. in order to unlock the Police R34 you have to purchase 20 cars, score 500,000 points in a drift event, accumulate a fine of 50k, and disable 100 cops.
POLICE
Police will now be in free roam. Pursuit breakers return: pursuit breakers are scripted destruction sequences which will kill police chasing you. You can take out scaffolding and knock them out, you can knock cars out of car carrier trailers, you can knock over small walls, and you can knock over big signs. Heat Levels Return: initial heat levels are determined based on speed if you pass a cop at over 160 MPH you will start at heat level 2 if you are below 160 you will start at heat 1. These heat levels are retained, when you leave a pursuit your heat level will remain at what it was when you went into cool down, the only way to lower heat level is to edit the visual customization or to park the car in the garage for a few races. Impound Strikes Return: any time you get busted your car gets an impound strike at 3 your car is impounded. If your car gets impounded you can purchase it back, but it will cost as much as buying the car new again. If you do not have any cars left and if you do not have enough money to buy your car back from the impound lot or buy a new car from the car lot than the game is over and you have to restart (or quite the game before it saves). Fine: when in a pursuit the police will tally up every offense you make such as reckless driving, speeding, street racing, destruction of property, etc, and these add up quickly, if you get busted and can’t pay the fine you will be in debt, if you fail to get your balance back to 0 within a certain amount of play time the police will increase you to max heat level so, make sure you don’t get in debt. Pull Over Mechanic: If you don’t want a police pursuit you can just pull over and pay the fine of the violation you comminited. Pulling over is not an option with high heat levels or if you commit a big offense such as destruction of property. Essentially it’s the same pullover mechanic as 2015 and Midnight Club LA. Heat 1: Subaru Legacy Heat 2: Nissan Skyline V35 Heat 3: Mazda RX-8, Mazda CX-5 (Rhino) Heat 4: Nissan Fairlady Z, Mazda CX-5 (Rhino), Police-Heli Heat 5: Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R With Kill-Switches Attached,Mazda CX-5 (Rhino), Police-Heli
Sudden Death Tōge - Sudden Death Tōge is an event type that requires a lot of skill and precision, on the first run, you will be following the opponent, on the second run the opponent will be following you. Ramming an opponent in the first stage will deduct 5000 points from your score, being rammed by an opponent in the second stage will grant you 5000 points. If anyone falls off the cliff, if 1 driver gets passed, or if a driver falls behind, the race is over. Time Attack Tōge - Time Attack Tōge is a race against the clock and a true test of your skills. If you fall off the edge, the race is over, if you hit a wall you will get a 2 to 5 second penalty (depending on balance). If you run out of time before reaching the finish or if you fall off the cliff the race is over you lose. Sprint Race - Point to point street race that takes place in the canyons and in the city, but mostly in the city. Circuit Race - street races that take place in the city that take place along a set route with a set number of laps and a single start/finish line. Speedtrap - Speedtrap events take place along a point-to-point route with several speed cameras that award points based on a participant's captured speed. This event type has heavy cop presence. Drift Race - Drift events require participants to earn as many points as they can by drifting their car, and can take place in canyons, city circuit routes or in multistory parking garages. Tandem Battle- a Tandem Battle is a drift event where its you against 1 other AI driver. Tandem Battles are split into 2 rounds, much like Sudden Death Toge except instead in drifting form. The goal is to stay as close as possible to the other driver while drifting, the closer you are the higher your multiplier will be, in the first round you start off by following and drifting to gain points, in the second round your goal is to keep your distance from the other player. If you ram a player in the first round of a Tandem Battle you will have a 5000 point penalty and if they ram you in the second round, you gain 5000 points. Lap Knockout - A circuit race in which the player who is in last place after each lap gets disqualified from that race. Drag Race - a race in a straight line with 2 to 6 players compete for the perfect shifts. You need to keep track of engine temp though over reving or going over red line will raise engine temp if your engine temp gets too high your engine will blow for longer drag races cars with more top end power might be more useful, but in events with shorter routes a car with more low end torque might be more useful. If you crash out you lose that round of the drag race. Wangan Battles - Wangan Battles are battles which take place on long stretches of highway/motorway that start at 80 MPH (128 KMH) with the goal of getting to 200 MPH (321 KMH) quicker than your opponent. whoever reaches 200 MPH (321 KMH) first wins. Outrun Races - The winner of an Outrun Race is the racer that overtakes their opponent and sustains a lead of at least 1,000ft (300m). Both racers can drive wherever they want as there's no determined route. Grip Boss’ - Grip boss’ challenge you when you conquer all of their territory. When you conquer a grip crews territory they will challenge you in 3 different events. First you will have to race the boss in a sprint race through the city, than you will have a Wangan Battle with the boss, and if you win against them in those 2 races and only then will the boss challenge you to a Sudden Death Toge Battle. if you lose the Toge Battle they reclaim all the territory you had taken from them. If you win you keep their territory. NO RESTARTS are allowed in the Sudden Death Toge events against bosses, however restarts are allowed on the Wangan Battle and on the Sprint Race through the city. Grip boss races take place at night time only. Drift Boss’ - Drift boss’ challenge you when you conquer all of their territory. When you conquer their territory they will challenge you to 3 different events. First you will face the boss in a drift circuit in a multistory parking garage, than you will need to beat their score on their favorite drifting route in the city, and when you beat the boss in those events the boss will challenge you to a Tandem Battle. If you lose the Tandem Battle the boss will reclaim all the territory you took from him, if you win you keep their territory. NO RESTARTS are allowed in a Tandem Battle against bosses, however you can restart in the first 2 events that take place before the Tandem Battle. Drag Boss’ - Drag boss’ challenge you when you conquer all of their territory, when you take all of their their territory they will challenge you to 3 events. 2 drag races 1 on the highway and 1 in the city and a Wangan Battle on the highways. If you lose the Wangan Battle the boss will reclaim all the territory you took from them. NO RESTARTS are allowed in the wangan battle, however, restarts are allowed in the 2 drag races.
CASUAL MULTIPLAYER GAME MODES
Online Free Roam - Roam around Japan with your friends or by yourself and show off your ride to players around the world if you desire. Pursuit Knockout - Pursuit Knockout is a party game mode that pits players against each other in a lap knockout style game mode, but rather than being disqualified for being in last place at the end of a lap you become a pursuing officer in a police cruiser trying to take down other players. The players you takedown also become pursuing officers in police cruisers trying to take out other races. The game ends when all players become police or when 1 person crosses the finish line alive. Team Escape - Team escape is a PvE (player vs environment) game mode that takes place along an enclosed A to B course with up to six players working together to evade the police. Cops & Robbers - A 6 v 6 party game mode that pits cops against racers. As the racers you must pick up and deliver packages without being taken out. As a cop your job is to stop them from picking up and delivering the packages. The game ends when the racers deliver all the packages or when the cops arrest all the racers. Pursuit Tag - A 12 player party game mode where at the beginning of a round someone is randomly chosen to become a cop the job of that cop is to tag the opponents each tagged opponent becomes a cop. The person who remains untouched the longest is the winner of the event. Crew Races - a 6 v 6 event type that pits 2 teams against each other in a sprint race. The goal of each team is to get as many players in front of the other team. The team who crosses the line with the most players in front wins.
MULTIPLAYER SPEEDLISTS
Lap Knockout - A circuit race in which the player who is in last place after each lap gets disqualified from that race. Circuit Races - Circuit events take place along a set route with a set number of laps and a single start/finish line. Sprint Race - Point to point street race that takes place in the canyons and in the city, but mostly in the city. Speedtrap - Speedtrap events take place along a point-to-point route with several speed cameras that award points based on a participant's captured speed. This event type has heavy cop presence. Drag Race - a race in a straight line with 2 to 6 players compete for the perfect shifts. You need to keep track of engine temp though over revving or going over red line will raise engine temp if your engine temp gets too high your engine will blow for longer drag races cars with more top end power might be more useful, but in events with shorter routes a car with more low end torque might be more useful. If you crash out you lose that round of the drag race. Drift Race - Drift events require participants to earn as many points as they can by drifting their car, and can take place in canyons, city circuit routes or in multistory parking garages. Wangan Battles - Wangan Battles are battles which take place on long stretches of highway/motorway that start at 80 MPH (128 KMH) with the goal of getting to 200 MPH (321 KMH) quicker than your opponent (s). whoever reaches 200 MPH (321 KMH) first wins.
The So the other day I made a small article where I talk about things to do in GTA V Online, and now I thought to do one where I talk about things that should be added into GTA V Online, if you have any other ideas, please comment them down :D here goes...
Dukes Of Death to be added.
More racing cars, such as the massacro and jester racecar.
Option to purchase the fireworks.
More racing props in creator mode.
Be able to use more props in content creator mode.
A wider range of interiors in houses.
Purchasable mansions.
Option to pay off bounties.
Get rid traffic lights / signs in content creator. (useful for races)
Guns on titan.
Game consoles on GTA V Online. (inception:D)
Purchasable cargobob.
Be able to use the Army Base in content creator mode.
MORE HEISTS.
Access to the aircraft carrier.
Casino update?
Do Tricks on the BMX?
We could always do with more cars right??
Liveries for more cars.
Ability to sell the Pegasus vehicles.
A hacking mini game.
Colored sleeves tattoos.
Crew customization in game + emblem editor.
Drug trafficking missions.
last weekend of every month, double GTA $ for one mission / race.
A library? where you can get funny books / comics from.
More unlockables, for higher levels.
Ability to purchase a big rig from Pegasus?
A Machete... melee weapon.
Purchasable joints.
YOUR IDEAS...
knee high boots you can tuck trousers into.
Armory so we don't have to hold every weapon we own at the same time and have to scroll threw 4 of the same type.
More flat shoes for female characters. I'm tired of being a foot taller than everybody else cuz they don't have nicer - Shoes with the nicer clothing.
A revolver to purchase
For the stuff in the heist room to actually have a function, like storing armoweapons/snacks.
To be able to vote to keep playing a heist after a setup.
To make it where I can put a mask and helmet on without having to glitch it on.
Be able to sell vehicles to other players.
Be able to sell Pegasus vehicles
Different slipstream strengths, like from 10% to 100%.
You should be able to call up someone to deliver ammo/armosnacks.
Stop stores from running out of snacks.
Houses with 10 car garages.
Hit lists like in Saints Row, where they give you a description and location and you have to find the person.
Plastic surgeon
We need a boat with a gun. e.g. dinghy with machine gun, very much like Karin Technical but in water.
A spitfire with the LazeHydra turret would be awesome
MANSIONS.
Allow us to filter notifications to friends and crew only and let us decide what matches we get invited to e.g. turn off all custom matches
Crew emblems on both sides of the car please AND FIX THE BUG THAT WON'T LET ME PUT IT ON A JACKET IT'S BEEN YEARS, CHRIST
Have clothing stores stock clothes that are appropriate to their prestige.
Map expansion.
Burglaries like in San Andreas with night time vans and stealth, work your way up to big mansions and big loot. give us something for completing contact missions on hard e.g complete all martin missions on hard and get a unique banshee or something, complete all Gerald missions on hard and unlock cocaine or that testosterone stuff.
More in game interiors, let us get into the police station for instance (why patch that?)
Armory/weapons safe to store/display unwanted weapons at home.
Store unwanted masks/hats/glasses/other shit at home in wardrobe (eliminate tedious scrolling in select menu)
Helipads on all high end apartments and mansions.
Ability to track/highlight individual players with GPS.
The ability to record game play footage and send the clips directly to the game moderators from in-game; a much more efficient hacker reporting system.
Add the most wanted in GTAIV, where you looked them up whilst stationary in a cop car.
Revolver pistol.
More activities. Like pool/billiards, horseshoes, 1v1 basketball.
Allowing us to select a jobs by difficulty.
Aircraft flares.
More motorcycle (gang) attire.
Ability to store Bullshark Test. in our inventory
Randomly occurring drug transactions that we have to raid during free roam.
Wrap / decal creator for cars on social club. (we NEED more individuality for our cars).
A demolition derby mode where vehicles can become damaged a bit more readily.
If you have any ideas don't forget to comment them, I will add them to this list, if I agree with you :D
Futuristic themed items (futuristic cars, Tron bike, Osprey)
Action hero themed items (Good, Bad and the Ugly , Rambo, Die Hard, 007)
New adversary mode: BOSS BATTLE
Very similar to Max Payne 3’s Painkiller game mode
Team Hero (one-two player(s) & team villains
Hero gets better weapons and more health
Villains get less powerful weapons like basic pistol or SMGs and less health
Player who kills Hero becomes new hero
When player gets certain amount of kills as hero that player wins
OVERKILL UPDATE
Over the top weapons (Flamethrower, Chainsaw, Shoulder mounted TV missile, sword, katana)
Two person jet (passenger gets to control TV missiles)
Smoke grenade
Flashbang
LUCK, SKILL AND STOCK UPDATE
Stock market now open (completely random but there are different patterns for each stock, I know single player there are missions that affect the stock but Online will be too difficult)
Casino now open
Blackjack (with AI or players)
Texas hold em’ (with AI or players)
Slots
Ability to upload playlists
Lottery (with All players in GTA)
Horse/dog races (with AI or players)
Russian roulette (with players)
New high end/ gambling themed items
Casino heist
Pool
THE LEGAL BUISNESS UPDATE
You can now do jobs that are legal
Cop (Everybody wants this)
Taxi jobs
Shipping yard
Other legal jobs
THE ILLEGAL BUISNESS UPDATE
You can now do jobs that are illegal
Hitman
Drug trafficking
Drug dealing
OPEN SEASON UPDATE
Animals in free roam
Hunting free roam challenges
Hunting weapons
Hunting themed Clothes
Animal themed clothes (nothing creepy though)
New adversary mode: OPEN SEASON
Whoever gets most animal kills in time limit wins
New Adversary mode: FAIR GAME
Team Hunter(one player) Team animals(dressed as animals)
Animals get melee weapons
Hunter gets shotguns and sniper
Animals must hide and survive the time limit or kill hunter
THE HIT UPDATE
Randomly generated targets around the city in free roam
Players can now hire hitmen AI or player to hit another player
VIPs can now hire hitmen AI or player to hit another player or AI
New Hitman themed items
New adversary mode: Hitmen and runners
Team Hitmen & Team Runners
Hitmen try to take out the runners
Runners have to complete objectives
New adversary mode: WANTED: DEAD
Team hitman(one player) & Team targets
Hitman is stationed at vantage spot
Targets are all dressed differently in full body suits
Targets are given objectives they have to complete within time limit
Targets must blend in with AI that look like them
Hitman must find all players and eliminate them without killing any AI
OPEN FOR BUISNESS / EXPANDED MAP UPDATE
Opens all doors on map
Car dealerships now sell cars and cars can be stolen
Now you can own businesses that generate money unless you do not take care of them
Real estate that gives discounts or makes thing free
Real estate is like an advanced cookie clicke adventure capitalist/ billionaire/ clicking bad
You buy businesses
Instead of clicking you do jobs for your business
Real estate missions like single player
You can upgrade your business
You can hire people to work for you
If you are not careful you will get caught and your income stops for a while
Opens Burger Shot, Cluckin’ Bell
Either make it so you can travel by airport or expand on current map to other GTA cities
Cruise ship that circles the map like the train
Cargo ships that circle the map like the train
Battleship in free roam ships that circle the map like the train
Aircraft carrier in free roam
THE BIGGER RIG UPDATE
New feature: open big truck/plane doors
New vehicles to GTA Online
Cargo plane
Skylift
Blimp
Commercial Jet
Tunnel bore machine
Bomber plane (new)
Hovercraft (new similar to Bovver64’)
LAV (new)
Attack boat (new)
Skate board
Formula 1
If you like these ideas I’m sorry. Unless you work at Rockstar, if you work at Rockstar make whichever ones you like!
GTAO Invite Only lobby guide with a Section for StriclySolo players.
Last update 2019 08 18 WIP. WorkInProgress. This is to highlight all the things that can be done in the game without being a public session. Public session stuff is well covered in other guides.
GTAO Invite Only lobby guide with a Section for StriclySolo players.
What is a solo player and why would anyone do that in a MMO?
GTAO is not strictly a MMO. Some people just do not derive joy from playing games with others. But would like to play in a immerseive online game where the content evolves and can have a shared experience. So some people chose to play solo. There are roughly 3 types of solo play.
StrictlySolo - This player will never want to play with another person ever. Pretty rare. But this guide will cover them.
MostlySolo - This player will occasionally play with others in Missions, heists, and public freeroam. MostlySolo might have the holy grail of solo setups. A 2nd Machine with which to play. This opens up a whole new world of solo play. The 2nd machine will be mostly idle or can just be a buddy in the other room who occasionally hits triangle (or equiv) to get in and out of vehicles. The 2nd playemachine can be classified as ActiveParticipant (a live other person who can participate) or DeadWeight ( a 2nd machine/console or a person who is idling.)
GroupSolo - Will prefer to only play solo but will occasionally play with a close group of friends or crew. Example would be someone who grinds crates alone then gets with others to do sales.
Jobs available to a StrictlySolo player in a Invite only session.
Contact Missions - There are 90+ that are available to one person working alone. For the full list see http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Missions_in_GTA_Online These pay $80K-$150K/hr depending on when you turn them in.
Casino Work
After purchasing a casino penthouse a user can call Ms. Baker to ask for jobs. These can be done in a invite only session. Either solo or with associates, in which case the missions can be scaled to have multiple objectives. These pay fairly low at about $10K-$15K per job, but they also sometimes pay in casino chips.
VIP Work
Sightseer - Hack the system to reveal packages. Collect 3 packages in 15 minutes using a hacking app on the phone. Pay is $18K-$25 depending on how quickly it is completed.
Asset Recovery - Retrieve a vehicle (usually a motorcycle) from either the Vespucci Police Station, La Mesa Police Station, Mission Row Police Station, Vinewood Hills Police Station, Sandy Shores Police Station, or Paleto Bay Police Station and deliver them to a drop off. Wanted level cannot be lost until close to the destination. Pays $5-$10K
Hostile Takeover - Retrieve a package from either the Altruist Camp, Fort Zancudo, LSIA, or Merryweather Base and take it to a location. After stealing the package you get a 3 star wanted level. Pays $15K-$25K.
Headhunter - Take out 4 targets that randomly spawn on the map. Two targets are always mobile and two targets are always stationary. ~$18-20K Guide
Extended VIP Work
(Must own vehicle warehouse and buy specific vehicles to unlock.)
Fortified - "Enter the Armored Boxville and survive until the time runs out."" Payment: $30K-$35K
Plowed - "Smash all the enemy supply crates using the Phantom Wedge." The supply crates can only be destroyed with the Phantom Wedge. Payment: ~$30K
Fully Loaded - "Destroy all the turreted vehicles using the Ruiner 2000."" Using the Ruiner2K is not required. However at least one person must be in the Ruiner2K for the blips to show up on themap. This of course works better if someone else is with the CEO to keep the blips hot. Payment: $20K for destroying all vehicles. $5 for <10 vehicles destroyed.
Transporter - "Use the Wastelander to transport a vehicle to the drop-off location." Payment: ~$22K
Velocity - "Enter the Rocket Voltic and stay at the top speed until the time runs out to avoid detonation." Payment $35k
Stockpiling - "Collect the cargo crates on land and at sea using the Blazer Aqua." Payout: ~$1500/package.
MC Clubhouse Contracts
Torched - Destroy some NPC Crates. You can use missiles, bombs, or Molotov. Pay: $16,500
Gunrunning - Ambush weapons dealer and deliver weapons to drop off Pay: $19K+ depending on how long it takes.
P.O.W. - Rescue contact from secure location and get them to a safehouse. Pay: $23.5K
By The Pound - Complete a deal and deliver it to a buyer Pay: $15,500
Cracked - Attack a gang hangout and steal their cash.Pay: ~$7K+
Jailbreak - Hijack a prison bus and get the inmates to escape vehicles.
After Hours aka Nightclubs.
Nightclub Setup missions can be done solo in an invite only session with only the CEO.
Nightclub New DJ these missions change the resident DJ.
Nightclub Promote Club this can be done solo in an invite only session.
Nightclub Income - Passive ~$10K/hr if the club is kept popular by doing Promote Club missions.
Client Jobs for Paige.
After purchasing a Terrorbyte the VIP/CEO/MC President can launch a series of client jobs.
Robbery In Progress use the Terrorbyte to find a bank robbery and intercept the gold from the thieves. (1+ participant) $31,000
Data Sweep - Hack multiple vehicles to determine which one has the data. Deliver to the client. (1+ participant ) $33,500
Targeted Data - Get the info from LifeInvader to assassinate a target. (Note: can leave out the drones and do manually) (1+ participant) $30,000
Diamond Shopping use the Terrorbyte drones to intercept a diamond shipment. (Note: It is possible to do the mission just by running in and skipping all the drone work.) (1+participant) $31,500 for all participants.
Note: Collectors Pieces and Deal Breaker require 1+ associates and are below. Note: Editorializing here but Paige is one of the nicest people you can run jobs for. Very validating in her manner and very supportive even when things go wrong.
Jobs available to a MostlySolo player with DeadWeight as Associate or MC Member.
Casino Work
After purchasing a casino penthouse a user can call Ms. Baker to ask for jobs. These can be done in a invite only session. Either solo or with associates, in which case the missions can be scaled to have multiple objectives. These pay fairly low at about $10K-$15K per job, but they also sometimes pay in casino chips. When working with DeadWeight note that the missions will scale and make it harder for the VIP but they are all still completable with practice.
Client Jobs / Challenges for Paige.
Collectors Pieces - Collect the antiques from Armored Trucks and deliver to client. (2+ participants) $9,668
Deal Breaker Track a targets phone to locate a deal and break it up. Deliver breifcase to client. (Note: This can be done without using the tracker in the TerrorByte) (2+ participants) $9,000
VIP Work
Sightseer - Hack the system to reveal packages. Collect 3 packages in 15 minutes using a hacking app on the phone. Pay is $18K-$25 depending on how quickly it is completed.
Asset Recovery - Avoid this one with DeadWeight as the amount of vehciles to deliver increases.
Hostile Takeover - Retrieve a package from either the Altruist Camp, Fort Zancudo, LSIA, or Merryweather Base and take it to a location. After stealing the package you get a 3 star wanted level. Pays $15K-$25K.
Headhunter - Take out 4 targets that randomly spawn on the map. Two targets are always mobile and two targets are always stationary. ~$18-20K Guide
Extended VIP Work
(Must own vehicle warehouse and buy specific vehicles to unlock.)
Fortified - "Enter the Armored Boxville and survive until the time runs out."" Payment: $30K-$35K
Plowed - "Smash all the enemy supply crates using the Phantom Wedge." The supply crates can only be destroyed with the Phantom Wedge. Payment: ~$30K
Fully Loaded - "Destroy all the turreted vehicles using the Ruiner 2000."" Using the Ruiner2K is not required. However at least one person must be in the Ruiner2K for the blips to show up on themap. This of course works better if someone else is with the CEO to keep the blips hot. Payment: $20K for destroying all vehicles. $5 for <10 vehicles destroyed.
Amphibious Assault - "Destroy all enemy supply crates using the Technical Aqua." Difficult but not impossible with DeadWeight. Payment: $20K-$25K
Transporter - "Use the Wastelander to transport a vehicle to the drop-off location." Payment: ~$22K
Stockpiling - "Collect the cargo crates on land and at sea using the Blazer Aqua." Payout: ~$1500/package.
Velocity - "Enter the Rocket Voltic and stay at the top speed until the time runs out to avoid detonation." Payment $35k
Note: It is nearly Impossible to complete Ramped UP. Especially with DeadWeight.
VIP Challenges
Cashing Out - Compete to steal the most amount of cash by hacking ATMs. Winner gets a bonus payout of $18K. Losers get $5K. Everyone gets to keep the money they stole.
Salvage - Dive with rebreathers or a sumbmarine to collect ($) checkpoints. Each checkpoint is worth $500 after the first 10. 40-50 checkpoints. Winner gets a $18K bonus, Losers Get $5K. Like Due Diligence The winner of this can easily make $35-$45 in 10 minutes.
Auto Buyout - Compete to steal and deliver the most high end vehicles. Payments are based on who delivers the most expensive vehicles. Winner gets the largest cut. Winner gets a percentage range from 0.71%-1.45% of total value. The percentage gets lower the higher the total is; it may cap at 0.71%. Loser gets $3k-$4.5K. The most expensive vehicle I have found is the Transit Buses and Dashound Buses which bring in $500K each.
Due Diligence- Compete to find hidden packages. Each member of the team gets a trackify app on their phone. When you get close to the package you will see smoke. Do this in the town of Harmony on a Sanchez for quickest payout. If 1 person collects all the packages within 10 minutes, they get about $38K.
Most Wanted - Compete to survive a wanted level until time runs out.Payout $15-$21K. The wanted level goes away after the challenge. Park DeadWeight in a Rhino Tank, or APC sitting offshore.
Point To Point - Compete against team members in a race. $10K+ to the winner $500+ to the losers.
Courier Service - Not really good with DeadWeibght. Compete against team members to grab protection money and deliver to a location. If in an air vehicle the money evaporates. All damage to courier and the couriers vehicle makes money evaporate.
Market Manipulation - Compete to hold up stores in the time limit. Payout is $13K+ for winner.
MC Clubhouse Contracts
(Still a WIP...some do not work well with DeadWeight must have ActiveParticipant)
Weapon Of Choice - Assassinate targets in the manner the contract giver specifies. Pay: $18,500+ This is ok with DeadWeight. Pres can do all the contracts after doing their own.
Torched - Destroy some NPC Crates. You can use missiles, bombs, or Molotov. Pay: $16,500
Gunrunning - Ambush weapons dealer and deliver weapons to drop off Pay: $19K+ depending on how long it takes.
P.O.W. - Rescue contact from secure location and get them to a safehouse. Pay: $23.5K
By The Pound - Complete a deal and deliver it to a buyer Pay: $15,500
9/10 of the Law - Steal motorcycles from a secure location and deliver to a drop-off. Pay: $17,000ea
Cracked - Attack a gang hangout and steal their cash. Pay: $7K+ (may scale with amount of mc members)
Jailbreak - Hijack a prison bus and get the inmates to escape vehicles. Pay: $22.5K
Fragile Goods - Destroy Lost MC vans Pay: $13K-$17K
MC Club Challenges
Search And Destroy - Started by President. Look for targets in a search area. Pay: $27K Winner / $2K Losers
Wheelie Rider - Started by President. Ride a Wheelie the longest. No brainer $12K every 5 minutes with no cooldown. Pay: $12,000 Winner / $2K Losers
Jobs available to a Two players in a Invite Only session with ActiveParticipant as Associate or MC Member.
These additional jobs are available with conditions.
VIP Work
Piracy Prevention - For players with Yachts. $20K for successful attacker. $30K to vip team for defending. Players needed: VIP/CEO, 1+ Non-associate
Executive Deathmatch - Challenge another VIP to a deathmatch. Players needed: 2 VIP/CEO
Executive Search - The VIP is given 2 minutes to reach a location. Players needed: VIP/CEO, 1+ Non-associate
Air Freight - Collect a Cargobob at one location then go to a container being guarded by NPCs, take them out, pick up the container with the Cargobob, fly it to the destination. Payout ~$18-20K Avilable In: Invite Only, Crew, Public Players needed: VIP/CEO, 1+ Non-associate
Haulage - Collect a truck and drive it across the map. Non-associate players are told to stop you. A Karin Technical spawns at the initial pickup point. Payout ~$18-20K. Players needed: VIP/CEO, 1+ Non-associate
MC Club Challenges and Work
Criminal Mischief MC Pres + 1 Member needed. Must be near each other to start. Pay: $30K+ Winner / Loser $3500+
Deathmatch Duration: 20:00 or 20 kills. Pay: $20K Winner / $5K loser. Participants Required: MC President, 1+ Rival MC
Caged In - Pay: $4K+ depending on duration Participants Required: MC President, 1+ other players.
Rippin' It Up - Started by Enforcer. Cause the most damage while on a motorcycle. Pay: $18K+ Winne $1.5K Loser (based on damage done) Participants Required: MC President, 1+ MC Members
Hit and Ride - Started by MC Vice President - Perform the most driveby kills on NPC gang members. Pay: $14.5K Winner $4.5k Losers Participants Required: MC President, 1+ MC Members
On The Run - Started by Sergeant at Arms. All members given 5 star wanted level. Pay: $15K+ Winner / $1.5K+ Losers. (Based on time survived.) Participants Required: MC President, 1+ MC Members
Race To Point - Started by Road Captain. Race to the clubhouse or a random point on the map.Pay: $10K+ to winner. Participants Required: MC President, 1+ MC Members
CEO Special Vehicle Work (Must participate in public lobbies to unlock these the first time. After they are unlocked the actual missions can be played in invite only mission.)
Escape Escort (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 4 steals) "SecuroServ are on standby to extract some clients from a difficult situation. Collect modified buggies and get ready to clear their escape route for them." One person drives a Rumpo Custom the rest of the team takes Ramp Buggies to clear vehicles.
Breakdown Recovery (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 8 steals) "Source a modified classic car restoration project for SecuroServ by taking the vehicle transport truck it’s loaded onto. It’s a rare and technologically advance vehicle so expect armed resistance." Use the Wastelander to deliver a car cross country.
Cleanup Op (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 12 steals) "Mount a land and sea operation to wipe out the Lost Motorcycle Club’s methamphetamine operation in Blaine County with amphibious ATVs."
Asset Seizure (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 16 steals) "A SecuroServ client’s chain has been seized by Police. Smash through the red tape and take back their product using a modified Big Rig."
Firewall Protection (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 20 steals) "Government contract to combat a large-scale multi-source hack on government data. Use rocket powered Voltics to get close to enemy agents and wipe their hard drives.""
Coast Guard Duty (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 24 steals) "Bring down a smuggling operation on a Super Yacht for SecuroServ clients using an armored Technical Truck with seafaring capabilities."
End of Transmission (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 28 steals) "A SecuroServ client needs some technology in the hands of a Merryweather client. Take an armored RV to The Palmer Taylor Power Station and get it for them. They will be expecting you.""
Arms Embargo (2-4 players) (Unlocks at 32 steals) "Create an artificial scarcity in the arms market at Fort Zancudo using an all-singing, all-dancing state of the art, restored and modified classic car.""
Casino Work
After purchasing a casino penthouse a user can call Ms. Baker to ask for jobs. These can be done in a invite only session. Either solo or with associates, in which case the missions can be scaled to have multiple objectives. These pay fairly low at about $10K-$15K per job, but they also sometimes pay in casino chips.
Client Jobs for Paige.
After purchasing a Terrorbyte the VIP/CEO/MC President can launch a series of client jobs.
Robbery In Progress use the Terrorbyte to find a bank robbery and intercept the gold from the thieves. (1+ participant) $31,000
Data Sweep - Hack multiple vehicles to determine which one has the data. Deliver to the client. (1+ participant ) $33,500
Targeted Data - Get the info from LifeInvader to assassinate a target. (Note: can leave out the drones and do manually) (1+ participant) $30,000
Diamond Shopping use the Terrorbyte drones to intercept a diamond shipment. (Note: It is possible to do the mission just by running in and skipping all the drone work.) (1+participant) $31,500 for all participants.
Collectors Pieces - Collect the antiques from Armored Trucks and deliver to client. (2+ participants) $9,668
Deal Breaker Track a targets phone to locate a deal and break it up. Deliver breifcase to client. (Note: This can be done without using the tracker in the TerrorByte) (2+ participants) $9,000
Other work that requires a particular amount of people but can still be done in a Invite Only Session.
MC Club Work - Joust - Deathmatch on a motorcycle. Pay: $17K Winner, $5K losers Participants Required: MC President +1 MC member , 1+ VIP/Rival MC (3 total)
MC Club Work - Stand Your Ground Pay: $30,000 Participants Required: MC President +1 MC member, 1+ Other people.
Futuristic themed items (futuristic cars, Tron bike, Osprey)
Action hero themed items (Good, Bad and the Ugly , Rambo, Die Hard, 007)
New adversary mode: BOSS BATTLE
Very similar to Max Payne 3’s Painkiller game mode
Team Hero (one-two player(s) & team villains
Hero gets better weapons and more health
Villains get less powerful weapons like basic pistol or SMGs and less health
Player who kills Hero becomes new hero
When player gets certain amount of kills as hero that player wins
OVERKILL UPDATE
Over the top weapons (Flamethrower, Chainsaw, Shoulder mounted TV missile, sword, katana)
Two person jet (passenger gets to control TV missiles)
Smoke grenade
Flashbang
LUCK, SKILL AND STOCK UPDATE
Stock market now open (completely random but there are different patterns for each stock, I know single player there are missions that affect the stock but Online will be too difficult)
Casino now open
Blackjack (with AI or players)
Texas hold em’ (with AI or players)
Slots
Ability to upload playlists
Lottery (with All players in GTA)
Horse/dog races (with AI or players)
Russian roulette (with players)
New high end/ gambling themed items
Casino heist
Pool
THE LEGAL BUISNESS UPDATE
You can now do jobs that are legal
Cop (Everybody wants this)
Taxi jobs
Shipping yard
Other legal jobs
THE ILLEGAL BUISNESS UPDATE
You can now do jobs that are illegal
Hitman
Drug trafficking
Drug dealing
OPEN SEASON UPDATE
Animals in free roam
Hunting free roam challenges
Hunting weapons
Hunting themed Clothes
Animal themed clothes (nothing creepy though)
New adversary mode: OPEN SEASON
Whoever gets most animal kills in time limit wins
New Adversary mode: FAIR GAME
Team Hunter(one player) Team animals(dressed as animals)
Animals get melee weapons
Hunter gets shotguns and sniper
Animals must hide and survive the time limit or kill hunter
THE HIT UPDATE
Randomly generated targets around the city in free roam
Players can now hire hitmen AI or player to hit another player
VIPs can now hire hitmen AI or player to hit another player or AI
New Hitman themed items
New adversary mode: Hitmen and runners
Team Hitmen & Team Runners
Hitmen try to take out the runners
Runners have to complete objectives
New adversary mode: WANTED: DEAD
Team hitman(one player) & Team targets
Hitman is stationed at vantage spot
Targets are all dressed differently in full body suits
Targets are given objectives they have to complete within time limit
Targets must blend in with AI that look like them
Hitman must find all players and eliminate them without killing any AI
OPEN FOR BUISNESS / EXPANDED MAP UPDATE
Opens all doors on map
Car dealerships now sell cars and cars can be stolen
Now you can own businesses that generate money unless you do not take care of them
Real estate that gives discounts or makes thing free
Real estate is like an advanced cookie clicke adventure capitalist/ billionaire/ clicking bad
You buy businesses
Instead of clicking you do jobs for your business
Real estate missions like single player
You can upgrade your business
You can hire people to work for you
If you are not careful you will get caught and your income stops for a while
Opens Burger Shot, Cluckin’ Bell
Either make it so you can travel by airport or expand on current map to other GTA cities
Cruise ship that circles the map like the train
Cargo ships that circle the map like the train
Battleship in free roam ships that circle the map like the train
Aircraft carrier in free roam
THE BIGGER RIG UPDATE
New feature: open big truck/plane doors
New vehicles to GTA Online
Cargo plane
Skylift
Blimp
Commercial Jet
Tunnel bore machine
Bomber plane (new)
Hovercraft (new similar to Bovver64’)
LAV (new)
Attack boat (new)
Skate board
Formula 1
If you like these ideas I’m sorry. Unless you work at Rockstar, if you work at Rockstar make whichever ones you like!
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